. >> dick durbin, senator from illinois, i think the number two person in the senate, he said he thought lindsay gramm had a right, there should be some deference to the president. when the gramm was one of the few republicans who voted for elena kagan. hopefully that will have some traction. the last question will come from and all of an audience -- from an alumna in the audience. what qualities should the law school be focusing on as we train the next generation of lawyers? >> a law degree give you a license, kind of a monopoly on the practice of law. it's supposed to be an honored profession. if you are not satisfied with merely turning over a bus, you know it is something special and you know it to your community to use your talent to help make things a little better for others. i think a lawyer who commits herself to public service to make a living and to remember that people who desperately need it representation and will not have a, she care. i do not think someone who says i will do my job and collect my fees and and not interested in the rest of the world -- i do not consider th